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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the disqualification process should depend on what the purpose with the picture might be; if it is a report it shouldt be more than minor changes. If the aim is to do a free, artistic work, the photographer should have more margin to alter his/her work. Also if thework is for advertising.

I guess in the actal case, it would have been ok to darken the disturbinng foot slightly, but to &quot;clean it away&quot; totally is over the limit. We shouldn&#039;t forget that there were great possibilities to influence analog prints in the darkroom as well. 

The border was crossed when photos were manipulated in just this way, but of other reasons, when persons were totally removed because they had fallen into disfavour politically..

This was common practice in the Soviet sphere, where the aim of photography was a propaganda one. It still is in some some countries; remember the manipulated pcture with North Korean leader Kim Jong Il and the discussion it caused?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the disqualification process should depend on what the purpose with the picture might be; if it is a report it shouldt be more than minor changes. If the aim is to do a free, artistic work, the photographer should have more margin to alter his/her work. Also if thework is for advertising.</p>
<p>I guess in the actal case, it would have been ok to darken the disturbinng foot slightly, but to &#8220;clean it away&#8221; totally is over the limit. We shouldn&#8217;t forget that there were great possibilities to influence analog prints in the darkroom as well. </p>
<p>The border was crossed when photos were manipulated in just this way, but of other reasons, when persons were totally removed because they had fallen into disfavour politically..</p>
<p>This was common practice in the Soviet sphere, where the aim of photography was a propaganda one. It still is in some some countries; remember the manipulated pcture with North Korean leader Kim Jong Il and the discussion it caused?</p>
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		<title>By: Fellow nostalgists, &#171; thedigitalera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fellow nostalgists, &#171; thedigitalera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lucky for us we have an intellectual who has thought about this too.  According to Jean Baudrillard (1927-2007) the digital images form a simulacrum. The images don&#8217;t refer to reality anymore, but to other images and that how they create their own reality. Baudrillard isn&#8217;t very positive about this development, he thinks we lost our sense of reality. Especially if we consider the fact that a lot of images are sabotaged. For example the disqualification of the World Press Photos in 2010. Stepan Rudik became third with his photo &#8216;Street fighting, Kiev, Ukraine&#8217;, but ended up disqualified, after concluding that his photograph was digitally manipulated. The image shows a hand being taped with textile. It suggests that a rough fight is yet to come. Without the manipulation the picture doesn&#8217;t look that rough at all. The picture is to be seen at: http://www.petapixel.com/2010/03/03/world-press-photo-disqualifies-winner/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lucky for us we have an intellectual who has thought about this too.  According to Jean Baudrillard (1927-2007) the digital images form a simulacrum. The images don&#8217;t refer to reality anymore, but to other images and that how they create their own reality. Baudrillard isn&#8217;t very positive about this development, he thinks we lost our sense of reality. Especially if we consider the fact that a lot of images are sabotaged. For example the disqualification of the World Press Photos in 2010. Stepan Rudik became third with his photo &#8216;Street fighting, Kiev, Ukraine&#8217;, but ended up disqualified, after concluding that his photograph was digitally manipulated. The image shows a hand being taped with textile. It suggests that a rough fight is yet to come. Without the manipulation the picture doesn&#8217;t look that rough at all. The picture is to be seen at: <a href="http://www.petapixel.com/2010/03/03/world-press-photo-disqualifies-winner/" rel="nofollow">http://www.petapixel.com/2010/03/03/world-press-photo-disqualifies-winner/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rules of Manipulation &#171; The Sterile Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rules of Manipulation &#171; The Sterile Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 20:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] conflict. Too much photoshopping was also the issue when 2010 World Press Photo winner Stepan Rudik was disqualified (see photos [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] conflict. Too much photoshopping was also the issue when 2010 World Press Photo winner Stepan Rudik was disqualified (see photos [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.petapixel.com/2010/03/03/world-press-photo-disqualifies-winner/comment-page-3/#comment-61352</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@agustindavid: I agree with your point. Winning Crop tips are just relevant in some cases !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@agustindavid: I agree with your point. Winning Crop tips are just relevant in some cases !</p>
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		<title>By: Markjohn139</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markjohn139</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I CONSIDER THE AWARD WORTHY </description>
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		<title>By: Onlychild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onlychild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a difference between this and  tweaking contrast and levels, curves, sharpening etc I&#039;m not denying that. Of course that has to be done due to the nature of digital photography. Its when you start editing far beyond beyond what came out of the camera. Removing something from an image artificially no longer makes that image a photograph. Its a digital image. There is a difference.

As for &#039;journalistic&#039; photos. Yes they often are made in to &#039;Frankenstein&#039; images, but who is doing that? Is it the photographer themselves or a designer in the layout department? If its been done by someone else, several images masked over each other etc etc etc, is that still a photograph? And who is the creator of that image? The photographer or the digital retoucher? 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a difference between this and  tweaking contrast and levels, curves, sharpening etc I&#8217;m not denying that. Of course that has to be done due to the nature of digital photography. Its when you start editing far beyond beyond what came out of the camera. Removing something from an image artificially no longer makes that image a photograph. Its a digital image. There is a difference.</p>
<p>As for &#8216;journalistic&#8217; photos. Yes they often are made in to &#8216;Frankenstein&#8217; images, but who is doing that? Is it the photographer themselves or a designer in the layout department? If its been done by someone else, several images masked over each other etc etc etc, is that still a photograph? And who is the creator of that image? The photographer or the digital retoucher?</p>
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		<title>By: PaulG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t know much about photography if you really believe this. 

Post-processing has always been part of photography. If the post&#039; done on this image makes it &quot;not photography&quot; then much of what is called &quot;great photography&quot; is bogus as well. 

Your attempt to espouse some kind of hardcore artistic puritanism only makes you look like a foolish philipstine. Learn something about photography before saying anything else this foolish and misinformed. 

The photo was disqualified on account of the deletion of a photographic element, not because contrast and levels were tweaked. However, I wonder how many revered &quot;journalistic&quot; photos have had elements removed during development?..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t know much about photography if you really believe this. </p>
<p>Post-processing has always been part of photography. If the post&#8217; done on this image makes it &#8220;not photography&#8221; then much of what is called &#8220;great photography&#8221; is bogus as well. </p>
<p>Your attempt to espouse some kind of hardcore artistic puritanism only makes you look like a foolish philipstine. Learn something about photography before saying anything else this foolish and misinformed. </p>
<p>The photo was disqualified on account of the deletion of a photographic element, not because contrast and levels were tweaked. However, I wonder how many revered &#8220;journalistic&#8221; photos have had elements removed during development?&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, we get money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, we get money?</p>
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		<title>By: Emanwheeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emanwheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 03:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original photo is not that good. Any idiot could have take the shot. He did, however, do a fantastic job in post production by taking a mediocre image and pumping some life into it. An edited (and greatly manipulated) image such as this should be reserved for artistic photographers as several have mentioned before me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original photo is not that good. Any idiot could have take the shot. He did, however, do a fantastic job in post production by taking a mediocre image and pumping some life into it. An edited (and greatly manipulated) image such as this should be reserved for artistic photographers as several have mentioned before me.</p>
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		<title>By: nathan murrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathan murrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if he was any kind of photographer he would of composed the shot there and then, it&#039;s called &#039;le moment decisive&#039;.  any idiot can go away after and make an image look better, im glad it&#039;s been disqualified, it sends out a message to photographers that photojournalism has to 110% genuine!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if he was any kind of photographer he would of composed the shot there and then, it&#8217;s called &#8216;le moment decisive&#8217;.  any idiot can go away after and make an image look better, im glad it&#8217;s been disqualified, it sends out a message to photographers that photojournalism has to 110% genuine!</p>
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