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	<title>Comments on: Freeze Your Camera for Less Noise</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Karneboge</title>
		<link>http://www.petapixel.com/2010/01/26/freeze-your-camera-for-less-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-17100</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Karneboge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And how would you take pictures with your camera in a bag? &lt;br&gt;If you take it out the water in the air would condense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how would you take pictures with your camera in a bag? <br />If you take it out the water in the air would condense.</p>
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		<title>By: nathanyan</title>
		<link>http://www.petapixel.com/2010/01/26/freeze-your-camera-for-less-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-4215</link>
		<dc:creator>nathanyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The easy solution to this is to wrap your camera in a plastic bag before putting it into the fridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The easy solution to this is to wrap your camera in a plastic bag before putting it into the fridge.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian D. Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://www.petapixel.com/2010/01/26/freeze-your-camera-for-less-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-4071</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian D. Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone wanting to try this ought to consider that if you bring your cooled camera into a relatively warmer environment(like out of the freezer into the kitchen), even for a few seconds, you are at risk of condensing water onto the lens elements, sensor, and electronics inside the camera...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone wanting to try this ought to consider that if you bring your cooled camera into a relatively warmer environment(like out of the freezer into the kitchen), even for a few seconds, you are at risk of condensing water onto the lens elements, sensor, and electronics inside the camera&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mijonju</title>
		<link>http://www.petapixel.com/2010/01/26/freeze-your-camera-for-less-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-4066</link>
		<dc:creator>mijonju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, i see but still its pretty.... er.. hahaha..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, i see but still its pretty&#8230;. er.. hahaha..</p>
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		<title>By: nathanyan</title>
		<link>http://www.petapixel.com/2010/01/26/freeze-your-camera-for-less-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-4065</link>
		<dc:creator>nathanyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fairly skeptical of the 4chan discussion. The only type of noise that is related to the sensor temperature would be thermal or dark noise, which is the kind that looks like this:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://photo.net/learn/dark_noise/dark-64m-72F.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://photo.net/learn/dark_noise/dark-64m-72F.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s simply extra electrons that are recorded, but generally it&#039;s a very consistent addition to the source light information, not random fluctuation like you see in the 4chan example. That kind of noise is usually due to shot noise (photon noise) which is just random variation in the light level itself, and readout noise which is associated with the readout and amplification circuitry of the sensor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The kind of noise in the zodiaclight example is the same kind of additive noise - they measure the value of the red pixel on a dark frame, in which a noiseless image would be zero and would increase the more thermal noise. For shot noise and readout noise, however, which is just random fluctuation but doesn&#039;t actually change the average, the average pixel value on a dark frame would still be zero in theory (though it&#039;ll be a little higher in reality since the camera doesn&#039;t record negative brightness values, so the min is clipped to zero).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only explanation I can imagine would be readout noise being affected by temperature, but I don&#039;t think Sony&#039;s electronics would be that bad, and the effect should still be more akin to the additive noise rather than random fluctuation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suppose this wouldn&#039;t be too hard to test - most of the Canon and Nikon cameras at least are rated to go down to 32F/0C. I might give it a try though I lack a thermometer to accurately assess the temperature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m fairly skeptical of the 4chan discussion. The only type of noise that is related to the sensor temperature would be thermal or dark noise, which is the kind that looks like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://photo.net/learn/dark_noise/dark-64m-72F.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://photo.net/learn/dark_noise/dark-64m-72F.jpg</a></p>
<p>It&#39;s simply extra electrons that are recorded, but generally it&#39;s a very consistent addition to the source light information, not random fluctuation like you see in the 4chan example. That kind of noise is usually due to shot noise (photon noise) which is just random variation in the light level itself, and readout noise which is associated with the readout and amplification circuitry of the sensor.</p>
<p>The kind of noise in the zodiaclight example is the same kind of additive noise &#8211; they measure the value of the red pixel on a dark frame, in which a noiseless image would be zero and would increase the more thermal noise. For shot noise and readout noise, however, which is just random fluctuation but doesn&#39;t actually change the average, the average pixel value on a dark frame would still be zero in theory (though it&#39;ll be a little higher in reality since the camera doesn&#39;t record negative brightness values, so the min is clipped to zero).</p>
<p>The only explanation I can imagine would be readout noise being affected by temperature, but I don&#39;t think Sony&#39;s electronics would be that bad, and the effect should still be more akin to the additive noise rather than random fluctuation.</p>
<p>I suppose this wouldn&#39;t be too hard to test &#8211; most of the Canon and Nikon cameras at least are rated to go down to 32F/0C. I might give it a try though I lack a thermometer to accurately assess the temperature.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Zhang</title>
		<link>http://www.petapixel.com/2010/01/26/freeze-your-camera-for-less-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-4063</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zhang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 07:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha. That&#039;s not the camera that the post discusses, but was a &quot;frozen camera&quot; we found on Flickr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha. That&#39;s not the camera that the post discusses, but was a &#8220;frozen camera&#8221; we found on Flickr.</p>
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		<title>By: mijonju</title>
		<link>http://www.petapixel.com/2010/01/26/freeze-your-camera-for-less-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-4062</link>
		<dc:creator>mijonju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gezzz that is nasty, hahah that doesnt even look frozan looks like fell into some.. ok nvm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gezzz that is nasty, hahah that doesnt even look frozan looks like fell into some.. ok nvm</p>
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		<title>By: mijonju</title>
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		<dc:creator>mijonju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gezzz that is nasty, hahah that doesnt even look frozan looks like fell into some.. ok nvm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gezzz that is nasty, hahah that doesnt even look frozan looks like fell into some.. ok nvm</p>
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